Which, of course, brings me to Jesus.   He actually did all of
that.  Not that he needed to learn, but he used those conversations to
engage the woman at the well, Zacchaeus, blind Bartimaeus, his own
disciples, his friends, his family, and his followers.  How did we lose
the simple idea of one person talking to another about things that
matter?  How can we move the community of faith back into conversations
with each other and the world?  That's the challenge we face.  That's
the future of church."